Sorry, folks, for those of you who have visited and posted…and amazingly there have been a lot of you, I have been ill. Simply stated, a couple of heart attacks and open heart surgery has kept me offline and out of commission for almost two years. FINALLY, I am feeling good enough again to begin researching and answering messages and correcting the errors many of you so graciously pointed out. Nuff said – I ain’t gettin’ into bedpan talk, let me get back into this site and the pileup of messages and the research updates I need to get done. For those who have written, my apology for the lack of response.
BOAZ FLEMING condensed from Rootsweb threads
b Jan 3, 1758 d Mar 20, 1830
married 1st Elizabeth Hutchinson and 2nd Eliza Laidley
served in Revolutionary War as pvt in Delaware Continental Line.
Upper Monongahela Valley, p. 406:
William, Robert, Archibald and John Fleming settled in 1741 in
Penn’s Colony on the Delaware. In 1789, John, with three of his brother
William’s sons, Nathan, Boaz, and Benoni, removed to West Virginia and
settlred on lands along the Monongahela River. Of John, there is no
account. The three nephews remained and were joined by their sister, Mary,
and their step-mother, Ann Hudson.
Boaz Fleming son of William Fleming and Jane/Jean Frame. William born in
Scotland 6/5/1717 arrived in America about 1740 with his brothers, Archibald,
Robert and John. Boaz born in Kent Co., Delaware 1/3/1758. He married
Elizabeth Hutchinson abt 1785. In 1887 they removed to VA with their daughter
Clarissa. Boaz founded the town of Middletown VA, now Fairmont, WV.
Children of Boaz and Elizabeth:
Clarissa b 1786 Kent Co., Delaware
William b 12/161788 VA
Mary b 4/1/1791
Elizabeth b 5/23/1793
David b 3//7/1796
Sarah b 11/18/1798
Lemuel b 8/15/1802
Jane b 4/14/1804
Joannah b 9/23/1810
Margaret b 3/22/1814
Elizabeth Hutchinson Fleming died in 1823. Boaz married Eliza Laidley in
1826. They had one child Dexera b in 1827. Eliza died a few months after her
birth in 1827. Boaz died 3/20/1830. For more info on this Fleming family
and others see the book "The William Fleming Family – a Genealogy" by Frank
Brand published in 1941. This book is available from Higginson books as a reprint
and I have some of it here on my blog.
Zoho Writer – a free web based app gives you 1 GB of file storage FREE or you can upgrade that for a fee. This is a great service and the apps are more powerful and capable than Goggle Apps. If you use the service to store only your most important documents and folders as zip files you’ll find the free 1GB of storage goes a long way. Photos and multimedia can be stored, too but you’ll quickly use up the storage space. I use it exclusively for documents and emails that I really want to keep secure.
You know the old saying – “You can’t take it with you?” That, in a nutshell, is the problem with Ancestry.com’s latest iteration of online Family Tree software. I’ve been experimenting with it and developed a 6000 person tree just to try it out – it has some cool features that make it positively addictive.
First, instant linking of source material found on Ancestry. Found great Aunt Mable in the 1920 census? Great, just click to link the census image to your tree and a couple more licks and the census entry for each person in her family is attached. There are just 2 catches – first, the indexing is horrific. My Gould line finds the surname indexed variously as Gael, Gault, Guild and Goray. Normal variations be damned – some of these indexed names are very, very baaaad. Almost as if someone with no experience in reading documents whatever indexed them. Wait a minute! They WERE indexed by people with little or no experience at reading documents! Volunteers did most of the indexing, and while that is both boon and curse to online genealogy, I’ll accept the indexing problem as a necessary evil going along with the need to find cheap resources to index the billions of pages needing input. The second problem is – “You can’t take it with you”. If you output your tree to GEDCOM you lose the images and are left with a generic source. In order to keep the image you’ll still need to download it to your hard drive, and in order to keep the info on the census you’ll need to transcribe it to the notes section of the individual on your tree. Don’t put it in Stories, or Comments sections of the tree because anything put there? Well – “You can’t take it with you” Comments are lost and Storie end up as a link in your program’s Notes section. That of course is of no help whatever if you decide to drop your subscription, or for anyone else without a subscription.
If you put a lot of work into your online tree – adding phots, source record, stories and comments? Well, they gotcha. In order to keep reading that material you’ll have to maintain your subscription. Oh, btw, did you read the fine print? You can delete your tree, you can alter your tree, but guess who OWNS your tree? Ancestry.com of course. Yep, that’s right – that tree you deleted can be saved to their archives and used on CDs they sell, it can be freely used for any purpose Ancestry chooses in the future. When you create a tree “You c’t take it with you” and they own it, lock, stock and barrel.
SO what else is good and bad?
The trees are SLOW to input from scratch. There is no merge, so duplicates become this jigsaw puzzle of “How do I get rid of the extra Aunt Henny” without losing the downline info? If both duplicates have linked people you either need to leave it as is, or delete the entire line of people in one of the duplicates. No way to merge them.
Did I say slow to input? You wait for every single field you want to edit to download, enter your info, then wait to return to the profile, then you do it again. I have cable and it’s a fast connection but I still spend an inordinate amount of time waiting for pages to fully load so I can edit or add info. I also did a tree using a gedcom transfer and adding it to the Ancestry Tree program. It works but you still have to link each person to any source material and not everyhting in your gedcom will cross over in the conversion.
Still, the photos section is a great feature. You can search for any photos posted by cousins of your family members, as well as stories. I found hundreds of photos of cousins, and a few pertinent to my direct line. I added some of my own. Easy to upload if you have fast connection with space for full exposition, and an upload tool that will take up to 500 photos at once if you need it. As a photo album, however there are many much better places to put your photos online. And some people have crazy ideas of what makes a photograph genealogically important. One I found of my cousin’s shadow. That’s right – it was a photo of my cousin’s shadow on a wall. Not him. Just his shadow in noonday sun. It wasn’t even a profile. So now I can prove that my cousin cast a large a shadow and lived in a white house with clapboard siding that received full sun. It’s very easy to link these photos to your own tree, too. Takes seconds and you’ve got a pic of Uncle Larry smiling out from his branch in your tree. Of course, if you decide to remove your tree and convert it to gedcom – well, “You can’t take it with you”. The process of downloading the photos to your harddrive isn’t very arduous but takes a bit of time – and for crying out loud rename them or you’ll never figure out who it is! Ancestry’s naming is a computer generated string of characters necessary to archive millions of photos. If you forget to rename good luck. Unless you can recognize them from memory you’ll never figure out who it was you downloaded. Is that Uncle Harry or cousin Dick? One last – once you upload your photos – guess who now owns them? Oh yes. Ancestry.com. You’ve given them full license to use your photos for promotion, on CDs or in any way they see fit.
Okay – what else is good or bad? Well, next is the trees themselves. Because there is no merge feature, easy linking to records and a confusing clunky input, a lot of the trees you find have really weird junk in them. I thought trees on World Connect were inaccurate. Ancestry trees suffers from technical nightmares. Seems people use that easy linking to records to link ANY record Ancestry’s hints engine suggests. Ancestry’s Hints enguine is fairly smart but it’s still inaccurate enough to wreak havoc with unwary, or unsavvy tree builders. I constantly find trees with incorrect censuses linked to families with the result the info in them becomes a hodgepodge of correct and incorrect data in a crazy quilt alphabet soup of messed up dates, places and people. One ancestor of mine, a Fleming, had 27 children. When I checked the linked censuses there were 3 different William Fleming families linked to the same person. 2 were in Marion county, West Virgina and the William’s were born just a year apart – that I can understand someone fairly new at this getting confused. But the third William’s family hailed from Alabama, they spelled the name with two M’s in the middle, not a single kid’s name coincided and he was 12 years younger. The wife’s given name was the same, though, so the result was a woman giving birth to 6 children at age 49 -51-54-56-57 and 59 and 6 younger ones at 20-21-24-27-29-31. Evidently they rested 18 years before giving lovemaking another try. To top it off William’s other wife in this conglomerated tree had her children BETWEEN the first wife’s kids.
This isn’t uncommon in these Ancestry Trees and much of the problem is a result of the program’s shortcomings rather than the genealogist creating them. Sometimes you try and try and can’t figure out how to fix the problem. I also found in converting to gedcom and then into my Legacy software that there were lots of glitches like several same sex marriages that really weren’t. Somehow the Ancestry tree mixes up the gender – or else I’ve inadvertently switched the gender during an edit. The Online program won’t warn you, either. You can make any kind of mistake. Parents born after the ir children, same gender marriages, endless loop parent-child-parent again links. It lets you do them all. That’s a big problem with the program – it doesn’t protect you from yourself. Even the best genealogist can click the wrong button, make a typo on a date, or inadvertently link incorrectly. All the major genealogy software offers protection – warnings, or refusing to perform parent to child to parent again loops. Ancestry Trees will let you, though. And its cumbersome enough to make it easy to do.
Summing up, I’d give the program an A for effort but an F for results. There still isn’t a reasonably good alternative to offline genealogy software. Ancestry’s attempt misses too many of the things necessary besides the speed problem. No problem checker. No merges. Incomplete and sometimes erroneous gedcom conversions. Difficulty moving around. No name prefixes. No name suffixes. No ability to format all dates for a consistent look. No date checking. Inability to double date. Handing Ancestry ownership of YOUR work.
It has many good things – Easy linking to records, decent hints (hey it misses some but its pretty smart actually, but you HAVE to check the suggestions not just link anything it offers). A massive selection of records that grows every day. An family view/pedigree view interface that is fairly clear and uncluttered, member photos, stories and comments that are easy to find, download and link up.
All-in-all I’m waiting for FamilySearch to bring on an online tree program. Even with the same problems it would be free to all, they don’t claim ownership of your work. And I’ve volunteered indexing to both but from now on my indexing work will be for Family Search – they are promulgating their records free for everyone. Pay sites are a necessary evil I suppose, trying to get the massive amounts of records still offline available on the internet but my labor is going for free so I figure the FREE sites like Family Search deserve my efforts much more than the profiteers.
Charles Luther and Eliza Ann Conaway Gould. “Lute” with one of his ever present beagles, they are outside the old homestead on Hanna Ave in Loveland, Ohio. Eliza’s father was Edmund Macaulay Conaway, Lute’s was George Washington Gould, both of Marion County, WV. They are my great grandparents.
I’ve used several genealogy programs through the years, from PAF to Heredis to The Master Genealogist, to Roots Magic, FTM and Legacy. Each has some things to recommend it but in my opinion Legacy 7 is the best program for genealogy overall.
Heredis, a french offering, is confusing (or it was to me anyway) with a clunky interface and was difficult to use.
PAF is too simplistic and lacks too many features commercial programs offer but if someone brand new to genealogy asked me I’d tell them to use either PAF, or the Legacy free edition as they get started and to migrate later when they are better equipped to know what they want from a program and some basic genealogical experience. It’s easy to migrate from PAF to just about any of the commercial programs since it’s basic features are included in most offerings and work about the same.
The Master Genealogist has rabid adherents, and some claim its THE program for professionals but that’s bunk. Professional genealogists can use any of the top programs successfully and without a lot of trouble – the genealogist makes the program, not the other way around. ANY of the major players in genealogy software are well equipped to be used professionally – the trick is learning the program you come to prefer until you can tweak it to do what you want it to do. To that end I’ll say that users become emotionally invested in these programs to extraordinary degrees, claiming the program they use is vastly superior and deriding the other programs. They are ALL good programs. Each has enough of different look, feel and usability to make which one you choose a matter of comfort and preference rather than any feature set exclusive to one or the other.
I happen to love Legacy but I’ve given many others a serious look, owned iterations of FTM, TMG and RootsMagic and have stuck with Legacy every time. Legacy feels like home to me – for reasons I’ll try to explain. TMG, while a great program, just seemed too darn complicated – too many things to set up and adjust, and it was, for me, very slow to enter data, and lacked some automation that Legacy had that makes data input very quick and easy. TMG’s customizability is ahead of the others, though, and it breaks info down into small chunks or tags. I just found it too busy. Others love it.
Roots Magic is a very good program – if I was forced to leave Legacy it would be my choice. I am not going to knock Roots Magic, I just like Legacy better myself and that may simply be because I am used to the feel and look of Legacy. Claims I’ve read that RM is better or Legacy is better? I honestly think Legacy is ahead of RM in a few things and that Legacy is easier to use, slightly more feature laden and capable. A long time RM user would undoubtedly make the same claim for Roots magic. Both claim “their” companies customer service is better. On that front all I can say is that it would be nigh impossible to have better customer service than what I’ve gotten from Legacy through the years.
You’ll notice I rarely mention FTM. That’s because I really, really don’t like it. Personally, I think it’s the dog among the major offerings. It’s so commonly used because they have mass marketing and Genealogy.com and Ancestry.com’s clout behind them. TMG, RM and Legacy are all light year’s ahead in just about every facet but one area -FTM does a good job with charts and reports. Not a lot better than the others, really but very good in that area.
Specifically then, what do I love about Legacy?
Multiple Tabbed Views. Let me show you:
Family view is common to all programs and Legacy’s is its weakest link, imo. The children columns can be set for 2 or 3 columns but its difficult to see any info about them unlike with TMG or RootsMagic. You can customize what you see in many of the panes, set colors for ancestry lines, preferred lines, play with fonts. Pretty much most programs can do most of the same but I am so used to Legacy’s views that its shortcoming in the children view doesn’t bug me – much. I still wish they had an option for full line child displays like RM, or siblings columns like TMG, and TMG’s very customizable pane arrangements.
Again this is common to all programs. I don’t find any having an edge here
See what’s new, update, coolest thing is it is a browser right in the program – enter url and go – then turn on the split screen and cut-paste, type-edit into program from the web page without leaving legacy and without having to flip back and forth. Cool! Or take a Legacy tutorial and follow along in the program so you can use and see the features being taught as you go. And for tutorials Legacy has the best, imo, from videos, to slide presentations to printed manuals if you wish, a top notch help system built in, a very helpful forum and support. Very responsive, quick, friendly. Shows your version whether its the latest build, how many individuals are in the file, your to do list and a birthday and anniversary reminder. Did I mention Legacy works extremely well as an address book, too? Support is listed too prominently – they don’t hide or make you look hard to find the contact.
notice the options on the right? Customize the display, print, edit individuals right from the screen.
My favorite screen for studying and researching. Info is timelined, including births and marriages, notes are displayed and editable, and it can be printed or sent to .rtf, text .pdf for polishing before pasting back into notes, and you see on the right buttons to customize to make a report, to edit the person’s individual screen, and a powerful feature is using chronology and split screen on 2 persons to compare movements and dates and information to see how they interacted. Legacy comes with a bunch of timelines but you can create ones of your own, too. For instance, create a timeline of a county’s history so you can add it to an ancestor who lived there and see how they might have been affected – it is a powerful tool for suggesting new research possibilities, too.
All programs have a drop down name index as does Legacy but this is a full page view and you can select what is displayed.
I love this tab! As you can see in the screenshot this tabbed pane gives you the ability to make a survey of your ancestor using trees, ancestral file, IGI, etc. and it will link you directly. Then go on to specific sources.
This tab suggests a large range of source possibilities and includes a bibliography, repository list and you can select items to include in your to-do list for that person. Finally the to-do tab
This is a research log that can collect all the sources you’ve checked, mark them when done and it records whether you found anything or not. Gather them all from the whole database, just tagged individuals, or just one person, or a specific record type then print it and take it with you on research trips.
Legacy 7 also includes a Geo Database and can tell you that a county wasn’t formed when your ancestor was born for instance, prompting you to find the actual county of his birth so you can search that county’s records as well. It helps you format correct locations, spelled correctly and in the correct time frame. If it bugs you turn it off. Your choice.
Reports and Charts?
Legacy has a wide range of reports, book capability, charts and includes blank forms for censuses, family groups, pedigrees. Compete customization. I use reports a lot more than charts and love the program’s capabilties. So far, it gives me everything I ask of it.
This is a big one. Legacy 7 now has source templates conforming to Elizabeth Shown Mill’s “Evidence” and they are GREAT! I’m still converting my sources over as I go but they are easy to use and understand and output great looking citations, footnotes and endnotes. FTM has templates but I think they’re clunkier, clumsier and harder to use. Let’s face it, sourcing is perhaps the slowest part of genealogy data input. Correctly formatting sources, including the right information, and placing the citations correctly is often skipped or glossed over. No program makes sourcing fast but Legacy comes as close as possible to making it fast – and easy. Enter a source properly once, then use it again and again using the source clipboard for multiple entry. One click sourcing for repeat citations, with a detail screen that can prompt for specific details like page number. Multiple sources can be stored on the clipboard and switched back and forth as you work. Different clipboards can be saved and reloaded as you work on different lines.
Legacy also adds mapping to your bag of tools. Incorporating MS Virtual Earth, you can view maps in formats like 2D, 3D, Road, Aerial and flags locations your ancestor(s) events occurred at. Hover on the “flags” or “pins” and a popup shows you what events occurred there. See where they were born, married, died, were buried. Compare for migration patterns. This is freakin’ incredible and according to Millenia it’s going to get better in the future with icons that represent types of events, animation, etc.
So what else do I love about legacy?
Split screen views – open 2 windows at once, either the same database or another one. Compare side by side. Cut and paste back and forth, edit, merge. Indispensable. Any program without this feature is automatically a notch beneath Legacy without going farther. Maybe if you have a multiple monitor setup it wouldn’t be a big deal but for single monitor users it’s incredibly useful.
One click copying of events from person to person. Have an event that includes several people? An obituary for instance – copy the event after typing it once and paste it to every person’s events. I use this all the time for censuses, obituaries, death and marriage records – first for the primary persons, then I paste to the witnesses and executors etc. and make a quick edit in notes to suit. Recopy then paste to the rest of the witnesses etc. Very, very fast and easy.
Record source once then click to add it to one field or add it to all filled fields with a single click – either way, flip back and forth between multiple sources from source clipboard, detail screen can be set to pop up or not. (Source clipboard puts several sources on clipboard that lets you make ‘single click’ citations when you work from a source)
Sentences used in reports for events can be redefined to read how you’d like, or overridden for individual exceptions.
Info displayed in views can be customized to display the info you want to see, plus colors and fonts can also be customized. The whole look can be changed quite a bit.
File can be opened in access just by changing extension to .mdb. When using this though be sure to back up your file or work from a copy. Advised for experienced users who underastand the concepts of databases. In fact same sex marriages can be recorded using an Access work around. It’s explained here:
http://www.moss-fritch.com/legacy_7.html workaround for same sex marriage
The Free edition is free without strings and is useable from the git go. No limits on the number of people, import your full db from a gedcom (and used correctly you can remap to the tags you choose in Legacy) or directly from PAF or Ancestral Quest. Use it until you learn enough to decide to buy the deluxe features (and none of the deluxe features are “basic” and necessary to make the free edition completely useable – they really are deluxe features that are very nice to have but not absolutely essential). This “trial” version is a useable program and without the restrictions ones like RootMagic impose (limit 50 people etc). If you’re really strapped right now, Legacy’s free version is great until things turn around for ya!
Media – create slideshows, presentations, link photos and videos and sound clips, link documents and pdfs, media backups. Makes Legacy a filing cabinet for all your documents, photos and digital files. Link ’em and then decide whether to include in reports or not or to display or not. I used to use Clooz but not anymore. Legacy works just fine for me and is easier to input, although legacy will import and export right into Clooz, if you use and like Clooz.
Create web pages, nice layout, indexes, customizable, save and edit html if you’re an advanced user. No need for outside utilities to make your genealogy pages. However, I freely admit that John Cardinals “Second Site” for TMG makes incredible sites that Legacy can’t match. But Second Site is an add-on to TMG. Do the same thing with Legacy, or Roots Magic, for that matter with “The Next Generation v7”. Same price (30 bucks) as Second Site and works with Legacy or RM and creates sites that rival or exceed what Second Site can do. http://lythgoes.net/genealogy/software.php
See an actual site built with TNG –
This isn’t my site, just an incredible example of what can be done with Legacy and The Next Generation.
Finally, Legacy’s support has always been superb. It’s darn near instant. I’ve had answers by email within the hour at times, never more than the next business day. When I reformatted my hard drive and lost my Unlock number I emailed them at 10 pm and the next morning had a new code from Legacy. After buying Legacy 6 they phoned after a month, and then almost a year later just to ask if I was still satisfied and if I had any questions (and no, they weren’t trying to sell me an upgrade or anything either).
Importantly to me, I also did not notice any uptick in email from outside vendors when they got my info, either. They mean it when they say they don’t give out your e-mail. Great user forums, excellent newsletter and great training tuorials, many are free at their website:
Just as a disclaimer, I do not now, nor ever have worked for any of these vendors, I don’t get a kickback or an affiliate commission. I just love Legacy the product, and really admire the company and the way they’ve done business with me. Try Legacy. Its free to try out and you just might find the same thing I have. It’s a “can’t be beat” genealogy program!
Another old family photo, my cousin Larry Gould giving me a push in my red wagon. Larry is one of those unsung heroes of everyday life, serving his community in a career in law enforcement as a deputy sheriff for Hamilton County, Ohio. We are both descended from the Conaways, Flemings and Goulds of West Virginia, from James Aaron Gould to George Washington Gould, to Charles Luther to Lawrence Jay Gould and then Larry from my Uncle Robert Lee Gould and me from Patricia Gould both of Loveland, Ohio.
My mom sent me a package this week containing all the old photos and memorabilia from my growing up. On hand it worries me that she would send me these precious memories that she has clung onto for years, but it was a terrific gift. The memories flooded through me as I went through the box. Things thought forgotten were remembered suddenly. I’ll share just one here, the rest I’ll get on flciker eventually. Well, maybe not those old grade cards. Be kind of hard extolling the virtues of good grades to my grandkids if they saw those.
My old fire chief special. I use to pedal like crazy and plow it into the yard where it would stop instantly – the narrow wheels would sink in the ground and it would throw me forward. Which seemed great fun so I tried it on the garage wall. I jammed something somewhere that really hurts little boys. The only car wreck I’ve ever caused.
after the rain,
I returned home
to this valley,
where the rivers race
with the wildfowl flying south
and words in the sateen night
cry of home and haven…
after the rain,
I remained in peace
as silence from the heart
Fallow are the fields
where tall corn flourished.
Death stroked like a clock
rousing light from the long night:
My Brother, my brother,
where have you gone?
Hesse is rewritten.
Narcissus falls to AIDS
and Goldmund lives on.
after the rain
this blue shimmer raises
within the patchwork
of this quilt,
I cuddle your warm memory
named in the block
sewn on my heart.
The calico needs a sunny sill,
Roses need their water,
And marl needs the skilfull hands
Of an artistic potter.
Children need a guiding hand,
Prophets hunt what’s true,
The faery needs an Irish glen
And darling, I need you.
The violet loves the morning dew,
Red clover loves the bees,
The Chinook loves a running stream
And darling, I love you!